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    John Adkins
 

Coal Miners and wives - Oral histories


Coal Miners' Supper

Interviewed by:  B. L. Dotson-Lewis
Enon, WV, August 19, 2001, supper time

     On the hot summer Sunday evening of August 19, 2001, Bill McCutcheon and wife, Elsie invited me to a coal miners' supper.  John Adkins and his wife, Grace were there and so were Delano Barnett and his wife, Rayjean.  Combining these three men's work experience accounts for approximately 100 years of coal mining in the hills of West Virginia. 

     Below are stories as they were told to me of actual happenings in and around the coal mines.  Also expressions of opinions on issues relating to the coal fields of West Virginia.

John Adkins:
     I was raised in Widen, West Virginia.  My brothers mined.  My dad was disabled.

I asked; when did you start working in the coal mines?
John told me:
     I started in 1956.  When my first son was born.  Hand loaded coal for years.   Four or five years loaded coal with an old #4 coal shovel.  My pay was $1.00 per ton.  When I first started there was two of us hand loading and got it out by the buggy and the two of us shared $1.10 per ton, each of us got 55 cents per ton for loading and hauling it outside.  Coal didn't sell for very much back then, probably around $4.00 per ton.

     They were non-union mines.  It was hard work and a bad time.  They didn't care anything about the top.  Loaded it in the buggy and hauled it to the outside.  We dumped it in a bin and the trucks hauled it off.  I quit the mines and went to work in the timber business.  Worked at that for 4 or 5 years, then I went back to the coal mining business.

I asked; do you recall the Hominy Falls Mining Disaster - "Black Monday?"
John told me:
     Island Creek Coal Company sent me over there to help out in anyway I could when the miners got trapped in the mines at Hominy Falls.  I was bossing for the coal company where I worked.  Drift mouth of the mines was all you could see.  You had to go back about a mile and 1/2 to get to them; the trapped men.

     They donated each one of us a live one to bring out.  We were there working when they found them and the inspector assigned each one of us one to bring out a live miner and keep them slowed down and from going into shock.  I was bossing and went in to bring them out 3 0r 4 of them dead.

Grace Adkins:
     John would say that no one could still be alive in there.  Some of them were still alive, though.

John Adkins:
     I think I brought that Martin boy out.  He outran me.  I had to keep saying, "Slow down, slow down," and when they saw daylight they took off running, no one could slow them down.  The mine had a big dip in it and when they saw daylight, they took off running.

     The boy never went back in the mines.

     Back in those days they didn't keep accurate maps, they didn't know where they were.  According to the map they should not have been within 500' of where they were.  It was an old abandoned mine.

     I wouldn't go back in and help bring out the dead.

     The dead was covered in water.  One man had his hands locked around a post and one was washed clear back in the mines.  It washed the miner 50 or 60 foot down the ridge. 

Delano Barnett:
 
     My wife's mother's brother was trapped in there and when they drilled the hole they went and got her to sing hymns down the hole to those men and they had her picture in Playboy Magazine.  Her name was Ruby Lester.  She was very religious and they had a gospel quartet.

     I pumped water.

     I worked for Island Creek 27 years in the coal mines.  It was one of the best places to work I ever worked at. 

Comments on Mountaintop Removal: 

John Adkins:
 
     It is hard to say what is going to happen with mountaintop removal, they are trying to do away with it, but I don't know whether they are going to get it done or not.  Peabody is one of the big outfits, A.T. Massey is a big outfit.

     Mountaintop removal -- there is some I am glad to see stripped, some of those old rocky mountains, I can't see as it hurts.  An old rocky hill or something.  One mountain was pure old rock.  A goat couldn't stay on it.

I asked;  how do you feel about women in the mines?
John told me:

     Never worked with women in the mines and glad of it.
     I liked to pull pillars and take blocks of coal out better than anything I ever did. 

Delano Barnett:
     39 years in the coal mine.
     I was born in Clay County.  My dad was a coal miner.  He worked at Widen Buffalo Coal Company, then, he left when they tried to organize the union and he worked small mines around the area.

     Both of my brothers worked in the mines.  One is disabled and the other one is still working.

     I started working in the mines when I was 16 years old.  Actually I started in the mines because I was running around with Johnny Adkins and his brothers and went there to be with them and didn't get paid because on one knew I was there working.  The guy who owned the mines didn't know I was there.  We called him Papa Hickman, so Papa caught me, he said, "How long have you been working, boy, how old are you?"

     I said that I was 18 but I was really going to be 17, so he sent me over to the other mines which was across the road, he put me to work and paid me cash, because I was not 18.  That was where we loaded coal into track cars, like railroad cars and it was transported by mules.

     We hand loaded the coal into the buggy like John was saying and brought it outside and dumped it in the truck.

     When they put the 2nd shift on, you (John) and Raymond would put it in the cars and the mule would take it out and then come back.  The mules would do that all day long but when quitting time came they went outside and they went to the barn.  No one told them anything, they knew when it was quitting time.  One mule, one car to pull out.  They knew more about coal mining then men. 

Comments on mining accidents:

     One accident that happened after I started being foreman, a guy broke his ankle.  After I went to Birch Mines, the superintendent got killed, rock fall.  They didn't bolt the roof back in those days.  I was on the 2nd shift and a 3rd shift man got killed with a rib roll. 

Comments on Miners Health and Safety Bill Passed in 1969:

     In 1969 we had already figured out we had to do stuff but some of the things didn't help.  Some of the laws didn't do anything.  When companies put laws and rules in, it does better.

     When the fed got into it, in my opinion and they made federal laws and put federal people in them they would have been better if they had used state people and enforced it.  It would have been better but they put on more federals and they didn't help any. 

John Adkins:
     The feds just made a mockery out of it and never done anything. 

Comments on Coal Camps:

Delano Barnett:
     Coal mines and timber, coal mine towns and timber towns, they would get together and fight on weekends like in Davis, WV.  Davis was timber town and Thomas was coal mining camp and they would get together and fight on weekends.  Just like a feud between two families.

     I don't have black lung.

John Adkins:
     I have black lung and emphysema.  I was diagnosed with black lung in the 70's at the hospital at Richwood.  The state gave me 40% and then I signed up for federal and the fed gave me 100% disability for one year and the coal company hired a bunch of lawyers and took it back.

     They had a hearing on it in Charleston and I went before a woman judge in Charleston and she ruled against me in the company's favor, said that it was from smoking, not coal dust.

     It is in appeals court.  The lawyer called me and wanted me to make a settlement and I said, "No deal."  They said we are going before the Supreme Court and I haven't heard no more from it.

     I know it was from coal dust.  I never could wear a respirator and back them when I first got black lung they didn't have such a thing.

     Dr. Rasmussen gave me 100% disability with black lung.  The federal government sent me to Rasmussen and he gave me 100% disability.

     I take a breathing pill everyday and I have 3 respirators and they tried to put me on oxygen but I wouldn't go on it.  I have to go every 2 months to a lung doctor.

     The company lawyers say they can tell what causes black lung. 

Grace Adkins:
     The federal laws say he deserved black lung benefits, so we did a waiver so we don't have to pay back what we have received. 

Comments on women in the mines:

Delano Barnett:
     I was superintendent and I hired 5 women and I didn't physically work with them but I was their superintendent.

     I had one girl that actually started running a buggy underground and the rest of them did general work, cleaning belts, taking care of belts, etc.

The women I had working for me, I expected them to do a man's work because they took a man's job and they did.  One woman came and said that she needed a smaller shovel and I said, "No."  I treated them just like the men working for me.

     Tucker County, a woman 68 years old, she ran the longwall shearer, that is a piece of equipment that cuts the coal down.  You had a hard time slowing her down inside the mines, deep inside the mines. 

Superstitions: 

     One superstition:  The old people used to say when a woman went in a coal mine, a man would get killed. 

I asked; what has changed about coal mining? 

     Coal mining now days is not like it used to be.  It is not brute work.  It is easier.

     The modern equipment is the biggest thing.  If you look back at the hand loading days it took a lot of people.  They say the longwall has taken a lot of the jobs but you have to prepare for the longwall, you have to move it and it takes about as many.

     I don't think women are trying to work in the mines now.  I think women back in those days worked when there was a shortage of coal miners and women went to work in the mines.  They are not going to be taking on inexperienced women. 

I asked; did blacks and whites work well together in the coal mines? 

     In Logan County there were probably more blacks than whites in the mines.

     Back in the old days in Widen, 1/2 of them working were black.  In Widen the town was marked off, 1/2 black, 1/2 white.  They had their own churches, their own stores, their own bootleggers.  Daddy used to take me with him to the bootleggers. 

I asked; what was it like living in a coal camp?

     Widen was a coal camp.  The mining coal camp had its own stores, own doctors, banks, self-sufficient, a town owned by a coal company.  Buffalo and Gauley Railroad.  They had their own railroad, their own trains.  They built their own houses.  They had their own judge and jury.

My daddy used to go out and get drunk and they would give him 5 days off.  For getting in trouble,  5 days off from your job without pay. 

Elsie McCutcheon:
     I can remember going up there to Widen and they would dress up in their very finest clothes to walk down to the store, white shoes, white gloves and the coal dust would cover them.  They would spend hours washing their cars and one trip down the road, coal dust 2 inches thick would cover it. 

John Adkins: on Widen:
     The coal companies made the laws, they were judge and jury.

Me and my brother got drunk one weekend and on the following Monday, my other brother, who was a runner, sent him for me and my brother to come into the office.  I sent back that it was just as fast for them to come to me.

     Widen was a coal camp running when I was a boy and it was still running when I left home.

     They even had a sawmill to saw the logs.  They even had a dairy farm.  It lasted for a long time.  My dad worked there for 16 years.  It was there when I was born and it lasted for many years.

     About 1/2 the people were colored people.  They were there, always there.

At the mines, the black and whites worked together at the coal mines but they didn't play together.

Elk River Coal and Lumber Company - Widen Coal Company

Rayjean Barnett:
     We lived in the town of Widen for a little while when I was growing up and then we moved outside of town.  People still live in Widen but 70% of the people are gone.

John Adkins:
     That boom lasted over 40 years.  Widen and old man Moss up Donegan Hollar was the only mines around. 

Delano Barnett:
     There is a lot of coal left in West Virginia and it seems to be coming back.  I heard that Bush is pushing coal.  The future of coal mines in the next years is, coal business is going to be pretty good but I have been out of the mines for 4 years.  Coal mining gave me a good living.

Comments on coal miners and the media: 

     The media is disgusting to me, whenever you see something about coal mining it is in Logan showing a miner living in a house built on stilts.  That is how they want to live.  They choose to live that way; they would live that way in Ohio or Florida. 

Rayjean Barnett:
     I am a coal miner's wife and a coal miner's daughter. 

John Adkins:
     My wife 's dad was for the union trying to help organize and he was on the picket line and he lost his job.

     They had a shootout at Widen between union and nonunion.  The union had a place where they met and had big dinners and one day the company men drove by and was yelling and somebody fired a shot and one guy was killed (this happened around ’49 or ’50).  The guy that killed the company man went to the pen for several years. 

 Delano Barnett;
     Back in the old days the coal miners’ wives had it rough but since modern days with bath houses and other conveniences it is not so bad.  For my wife it was hard with me in management, I was gone a lot.  She had to get up 4 or 5 o’clock in the morning and get me out. 

I asked; if you had a son who wanted to work in the mines, what would you tell him?

Delano Barnett;
     If I had a son going into the mines, I would not encourage him but I would not discourage him.  It is a good place to work.  For the future holding a job, I would have him get certified to be an electrician.  As far as foreman, you can get them anywhere.

I asked; if you had a daughter who wanted to work in the mines, what would you tell her? 

     I don’t think I would encourage my daughter to work underground, I would send her to school. 

 Grace Adkins;
     I don’t approve of women in the mines.  If they had a bunch of kids and no other way to make a living.  I feel like they are taking a man’s job that has a family. 

 John Adkins;
     I got a boy on a strip and one hauling coal, Boone County, Red Warrior Strip job.

Comments on explosions in the mines; 

John Adkins;

     Down the road here one morning, lightning ran in and blew two mines up.
 
Comments on mining accidents; 

 Delano Barnett;
     The ratio between underground and strip mining accidents, I think is about the same.  Accidents in and around the coal mines are less than driving up and down these roads now days.  Companies are enforcing more safety laws, they can’t operate if they have too much going on.   

 Delano on Hominy Falls Mining Disaster – Black Monday Disaster:
 
     I was Section Boss at Birch Mines for Island Creek Coal Company mines.  Well, when I went to work they told us about the men being trapped at Hominy Falls mines.  I was working the afternoon shift.  They announced it at the mines and the biggest part of the crew left and went to Hominy Falls; the hourly employees.  Me and Sheldon Wayne asked to go but the company wouldn’t let us go.  They told us, “No.”

      So at the end of the shift (4 to 12) everybody that was left was gathering up big pumps and equipment.  We were gathering up everything we had to send over there to Hominy Falls.  It was about 20 miles away.

     We worked our shift and at midnight when our shift ended they told us to go to Hominy Falls.  When we got there they told us to start up the pumps.  I started the first pump.  I didn’t know much about what was going on.  We were all hoping for the best but we thought more of them would be dead, especially where they cut into the mines.

     We worked that shift from midnight to 8 in the morning (16 hours straight in a row).  People were all over the place.

     After we got the pumps started up the water started going down.  It just emptied.  The next day we returned to Birch mines and asked them (the company) to let us go back over to Hominy Falls and help but they told us “No”.  They wouldn’t do it, so we worked our regular shift at our jobs from 4 until midnight and then went back to Hominy Falls that night and worked another 8 hour shift.

     The way I understand it happened; the old abandoned mines they cut into had water in it and on the other side of the hill was another mine on the back side of the abandoned mines.

      The second night, we set up an Elcom miner in the old mines the plan was to cut into the old mines and get to the first bunch but the water was laying down in a sway below the normal water level, so it couldn't be done.

     They were talking on the telephone to one bunch of the men who were trapped and then they shot a hole through that old mines.  Me and another guy and 2 inspectors went through to where the second bunch of trapped men were but we ran into black roof damage and had to turn back.  We were still a long ways from them at least a couple of miles.

     After the second day, my job was to keep the water pumped out of the two old mines located on around the hill that we had cut into.  I had two men and our job was to keep the water pumped out of the 2 mines until they got the last bunch out.  
      A lot of the men just don’t want to talk about it.

end of interview.